DOSBox doesn't have a TCP/IP stack, right?
Is there some way to find a DOS driver to implement TCP/IP over the virtual modem?
Maybe it's already working with existing software? Is there are dial in software/driver for the DOSBox modem?
Perhaps I could call my LAN IP and listen there to virtual modem and forwarding any data requests over my normal internet connection?
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On real DOS I would search for a packet driver for the network card and start it, it would enable TCP/IP support.
This enables the ability to use any TCP/IP based software, for example Arachne Web Browser, Breadbox Ensemble, private software...
DOSBox does not emulate a network card and there there will be also no packet driver or faked TCP/IP. My idea was to overcome this with the virtual modem maybe.
Hope it's more clear now.
User h-a-l-9000 has a version of DOSBox somewhere on his homepage that includes a virtual network card.
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wrote:User h-a-l-9000 has a version of DOSBox somewhere on his homepage that includes a virtual network card.
I also recommend this version. I'm using his 4.1 with no problems. You have to create an image and load it with DOS & WfWG 3.11 to get it to work because of the config/autoexec boot files. (At least I do.)
http://home.arcor.de/h-a-l-9000/mb4.html
Although if you must have networking support, and games are not the intended application, you may also be able to get away with VMWare Workstation or MS Virtual PC 2007.
Got it, I started the NE2000 packet driver, so far it's working. After starting Arachne it will detect the packet driver.
But simple applications such as Arachne or lynx will not be able to boot up using DHCP.
Is this "only" an emulated NIC oder is it an emulated NIC with emulated Router, emulated DHCP and forwarding to real internet?
This only works with the fake internet. You'll also need an AOL CD and a talking computer.
I assume it is "just" a plain ethernet card. Everything else (DHCP & routing) will have to be provided by the OS/application.
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@MiniMax: this would be no problem, I can set up DHCP and routing...
But is there a bridge from the faked NE2000 to the real computer such as an IP and a listen port?
Or asked more easy... What is the planed purpose of this faked NE2000 by the author of this special DOSBox edition?
It's purpose is to be another network card on the ethernet. No bridge/whatever.
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wrote:@MiniMax: this would be no problem, I can set up DHCP and routing...
With Win 3.1? Good luck. And please share your experience.
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It's purpose is to be another network card on the ethernet. No bridge/whatever.
And what some can do with this network card? (examples: lan with mslanclient, lan with win3.11 and host, plaiyng DOS online games, using TCP/IP applications such as Arachne online?)
With Win 3.1? Good luck. And please share your experience.
Why with Win 3.1? I could set up this on host's side (Windows XP) if the emulated network card will create a lan with the host operating system.
He means Win 3.1 WITHIN DOSBox
> And what some can do with this network card?
Playing IPX games between Computers with DOSBox and others with pure DOS, accessing the internet and network shares in Windows 95 (I didn't try 3.11 myself but got positive feedback, it needs to be BOOTed though), using a DOS network disk to be able to access host files while BOOTed, somebody reported he got a Novell client installed (BOOTed too).
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He means Win 3.1 WITHIN DOSBox
Wouldn't make much point to set up a DHCP server inside DOSBox.
Playing IPX games between Computers with DOSBox and others with pure DOS,
Nice, but IPX support is already in official DOSBox, I fail to see the point.
accessing the internet
This sounds interesting and this is what I want to do, access the internet from inside DOSBox.
Example was Arachne Web Browser for DOS... Arachne will accept the NE2000 if I load the packet driver. But Arachne is not able to access the internet because the settings are unknown. Arachne can use BOOTP and DHCP, but it doesn't find a server.
How I can get this example application to work?
Playing IPX games between Computers with DOSBox and others with pure DOS,
Nice, but IPX support is already in official DOSBox, I fail to see the point.
Not between DOSBox and pure dos. Only between DOSBox and DOSBox.
Water flows down the stream
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wrote:Nice, but IPX support is already in official DOSBox, I fail to see the point.
That is not the only thing you fail at...
According to figure G on this page, you don't need DHCP/BOOTP as long as you know how your local network is setup.
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According to figure G on this page, you don't need DHCP/BOOTP as long as you know how your local network is setup.
Yes, you are free to use manual settings.
BOOTP/DHCP is just the usual way to setup things, it's much simpler and less error-prone.
as long as you know how your local network is setup.
And what is my local network setup inside DOSBox? That's the information I am looking for.
VMware has also a emulated network card, but there it's easy, just load the packet driver and everything is configured thought DHCP. But the advice to switch to VMware is bad, I come from VMware and switch to DOSBox already because DOSBox has better compatibility for graphic and sound.
Bare with me, I have no clue how to go online inside DOSBox. I just need some documentation, a short tutorial for going online with any TCP/IP application, with that help it should be possible to adapt this for any other.
wrote:And what is my local network setup inside DOSBox? That's the information I am looking for.
You have the ability to make DOSBox operate like VMWare with a hard disk image. In that way WFWG 3.11 Networking works. However, with your application (I haven't looked at it much), you may be able to make it work in the regular DOSBox mode without a HDD image. I don't know. See this: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/IMGMOUNT#Hard_disk_images
HAL9000's build offers a bridged network mode with an NE2000 card, also similar to VMWare. It is bridged to your local LAN - the same one attached to your PC. DHCP is handled by your firewall or whatever device you have dishing out IP's to your DOSBox host.
Hmm this was easier than what I'm used to... can't remember where I got that packet driver though.
The command line for it was
NE2000 0x60 3 0x300
then start Arachne.
Arachne has it's own TCP/IP stack with DHCP (edit: DHCP client) integrated.
I've clicked on Arachne setup and then on the network card symbol, detect packet driver, then on DHCP.
Do you have a LAN at all? I'm not sure what it will do with the virtual stuff...
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