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	Ann: Virtual PC 5 for Windows Released! :: 2002-8-06 @ 08:50 pm
Stiletto Oldbie Joined: 2002-07-01 Posts: 1291	...and free upgrades for VPC4 users! Homepage here: http://www.connectix.com/products/vpc5w.html Read what's new here: http://www.connectix.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ul...8&t=000014 _________________ "I see a little silhouette-o of a man, Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango!" - Queen Stiletto

	:: 2002-8-06 @ 09:04 pm
Snover l33t++ Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 5204 Location: You are likely to be eaten by a grue.	Well aren't you just full of announcements today? _________________ Colin Snover

	:: 2002-8-06 @ 09:19 pm
Stiletto Oldbie Joined: 2002-07-01 Posts: 1291	First announcement of the day, Colin! _________________ "I see a little silhouette-o of a man, Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango!" - Queen Stiletto

	:: 2002-8-07 @ 12:02 am
Nicht Sehr Gut l33t Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 3630	sound of sonic boom caused by jumping to download link before Connectix wises up and starts charging for the upgrade

	:: 2002-8-07 @ 01:32 am
Snover l33t++ Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 5204 Location: You are likely to be eaten by a grue.	Bah, 'cept us lowly folk don't even have v4. _________________ Colin Snover

	:: 2002-8-07 @ 03:58 am
Nicht Sehr Gut l33t Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 3630	More good news: UMBPCI.SYS _does_ indeed work under "Virtual PC" now: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- UMBPCI c't 11/95 - Siering/Schapers/Stiller V3.40 - support for new Intel/VIA/ALI/SIS chipsets + P2 - Uwe Sieber 06/02 Using CC00-DFFF Intel 440ZX w/o AGP found Program installed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haven't thoroughly tested it yet, but the author says loading DOSKEY.COM high with it is a good test, and that worked fine. So now I can test "Memory Pigs" with the same ease as on my Win98 partition. It also means that if your motherboard doesn't support UMBPCI natively, you get a second chance with Virtual PC.

	:: 2002-8-08 @ 06:58 pm
Harekiet DOSBox Creator Joined: 2002-07-01 Posts: 826 Location: Fryslan	Qemm now crashes in virtual pc 5, kinda weird, used to work in 4.

	:: 2002-8-08 @ 09:37 pm
Snover l33t++ Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 5204 Location: You are likely to be eaten by a grue.	Yeah, except QEMM sucks, so why does it matter? _________________ Colin Snover

	:: 2002-8-09 @ 04:18 am
Nicht Sehr Gut l33t Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 3630	Snover wrote: Yeah, except QEMM sucks, so why does it matter? Hey, QEMM dug me out of some serious holes in the old days. On my original 486 I couldn't get 600K to save my life. There were a lot of titles that simply WOULD NOT work without QEMM. (Of course, there were a bunch that REFUSED to work while it was there, too...) That's what multi-config's were made for...

	:: 2002-8-09 @ 05:48 am
Snover l33t++ Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 5204 Location: You are likely to be eaten by a grue.	It's also what good configuation files were for Seriously. With VirtualPC you shouldn't NEED to have QEMM. If you do, there's something flawed with it (VPC, although QEMM is flawed as well ) _________________ Colin Snover

	:: 2002-8-09 @ 06:30 am
Nicht Sehr Gut l33t Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 3630	Snover wrote: Seriously. With VirtualPC you shouldn't NEED to have QEMM. If you do, there's something flawed with it (VPC, although QEMM is flawed as well ) Actually, it's a sign of good emulation. Remember, I'm talking about memory pigs: DOS Mouse Driver, DOS CD-ROM Driver (plus some DOS tools that for special VPC functions) and still need 600K+ for the game/utility itself. IOW, it's working like a real DOS-PC. So it's : QEMM or UMBPCI or MEMMAKER or "cross your fingers and hope that this doesn't need EMS or Upper memory or anything at all fancy". With UMBPCI I can just plop UMBPCI.SYS into the CONFIG.SYS (all 240 bytes of it) and BING! I've got 384k of Upper Memory to use as I please. The only real down-sides are that it's only useful in a DOS/Win9x enviroment (obviously) and that it only works on some hardware configurations. http://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html

	:: 2002-8-10 @ 12:25 am
Snover l33t++ Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 5204 Location: You are likely to be eaten by a grue.	I'd think it would be better to have CD drivers and EMS drivers and sound card drivers (route to card via *Out) automatic, without using any conventional memory. Just my opinion. (It'd sure as shit make things a helluva lot easier to do.) _________________ Colin Snover

	:: 2002-8-10 @ 05:41 am
Nicht Sehr Gut l33t Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 3630	That's kind of what I was thinking but with a slight variation. If they made all of it "automatic" they'd probably break the DOS emulation (you could make DOS SoundBlaster emulation without an IRQ. But if you did DOS programs would freak out when they couldn't find the IRQ). To "keep it legal" they could make tiny drivers (mouse/CD-ROM) that draws all it's _real_ resources from the real PC but leaves something in the actual DOS so the OS can "see it there". That should allow the maximum amount of memory while keep the emulation "legitimate". Unfortunately, DOS emulation, Base memory, and Game compatibility are of no interest to Connectix; so I don't see it happening anytime soon.

	:: 2002-8-10 @ 07:07 am
Snover l33t++ Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 5204 Location: You are likely to be eaten by a grue.	Petition time? (I wouldn't use any real email address there -- it's a haven for spam harvesters -- I've learned this the hard way.) _________________ Colin Snover

	:: 2002-8-10 @ 01:03 pm
DosFreak Freaky Ram Thing Joined: 2002-06-30 Posts: 8338 Location: Your Head	Trial ver of VPC 5 http://preview.connectix.com/trial/ _________________ Game Acronym List DosBox CVS Builds DosBox Feature Request Thread DosBox FAQ PC Game Compatibility List DOSBox Video Tutorial Quote: John Bender: Without lamps there'd be no light.

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