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	Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-01 @ 05:52 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	I think this must be the most complicated way I've ever printed Hello World on a screen. The interesting thing to know would be does this work under Vista? vdos32.exe (172kB) - Downloaded 745 Time(s) HW.exe (47.02kB) - Downloaded 711 Time(s)

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-05 @ 05:08 pm
Amar_Toulouse Newbie Joined: 2006-10-05 Posts: 1	Hi Paul, It works like a charm under Vista RC1 Build 5600. Sincerely, _________________ Amar Guerfi http://www.guitar-online.com

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-05 @ 05:52 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Thanks Amar. That's great news. There is still a load of work still to do before VDos32 can run more complicated programs like TR1, but this does at least look like a potential solution for TR1, and similar games, under Vista.

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-05 @ 06:38 pm
Zebius Member Joined: 2004-10-05 Posts: 162 Location: Poland	What is this? New DosBox?

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-06 @ 07:56 am
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	In a way, but its mostly virtualisation rather than emulation. It will never handle the generality that DosBox does, but for the few programs it will run, it should be very much faster. It will never support old real mode programs. And its early days. I may never get as far as making it run any real-world programs.

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-06 @ 11:12 am
Zebius Member Joined: 2004-10-05 Posts: 162 Location: Poland	A-ha, thanks for your explanation. Do you already think about Glidos support for Vista? I heard that TR1 for example doesn't work on Vista RC1 with VDMSound and dgvoodoo, maybe Glidos could do it?

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-06 @ 11:23 am
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Yes, Glidos wont work either bacause there is just no support under Vista for running TR1. That's the purpose of VDos32.

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-06 @ 05:40 pm
collector Oldbie Joined: 2003-01-15 Posts: 1492	Could this be more of a replacement for the NTVDM?

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-07 @ 11:07 am
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Not really. It targets only DOS/4GW programs. DosBox is your man for a more general replacement of ntvdm.

	A little progress :: 2006-10-16 @ 07:49 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Some progress towards suppoting TR1. Here's a new version of VDos. I've also attached a self extracting archive that will install TR1. It would be interesting to know if VDos is still working within the constraints of Vista. tombraid4vdos02.exe (658.39kB) - Downloaded 702 Time(s) A self extracting archive for installing TR1 VDos32.exe (192kB) - Downloaded 707 Time(s) VDos32 v0.2

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 06:19 pm
collector Oldbie Joined: 2003-01-15 Posts: 1492	VDos32 will launch in Vista 64, but errors out whenever you try to load anything. Also, I take it that you don't have any input developed for it. yet. The keyboards on two different PCs did not respond to TR.

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 07:12 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Thanks for trying it out. I don't quite understand the results though. If it gives errors whatever you load, what's the bit about keyboard and TR?

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 08:17 pm
kekko Member Joined: 2004-03-24 Posts: 319	Hi, do you plan to keep it closed source? Thanks.

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 10:06 pm
collector Oldbie Joined: 2003-01-15 Posts: 1492	The keyboard does not work for me after I load anything on two different XP machines. The TR install and the game's main executable will load, but I can not do anything. In 64bit Vista when I click Load Program and select SETUP.EXE or TOMB.EXE I get this: TombError.png (36.98kB) - Viewed 4287 Time(s)

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 10:13 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Hmmm. That's bad news. So Vista doesn't like something I'm doing. The lack of interaction is fine. I've only just gotten the display working.

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 10:15 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	Do you always see the same unimplemented instruction?

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 10:20 pm
Glidos l33t Joined: 2002-08-08 Posts: 2821	collector, did you try HW.exe from the first post?

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 11:58 pm
collector Oldbie Joined: 2003-01-15 Posts: 1492	From HW: HW.png (30.18kB) - Viewed 4271 Time(s)

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-17 @ 11:59 pm
collector Oldbie Joined: 2003-01-15 Posts: 1492	From SETUP: Setup.png (35.79kB) - Viewed 4270 Time(s)

	Re: Breakthrough in "Hello World program" technology :: 2006-10-18 @ 12:00 am
collector Oldbie Joined: 2003-01-15 Posts: 1492	From TOMB: Tomb.png (35.96kB) - Viewed 4269 Time(s)

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