Have you tried a different board? There should have been a measurable boost after the upgrade.

I can't remember what sort of speed boost I got with that cpu - I also used it to upgrade from a k6/2 400 - my main recollection is that the system [ie desktop] just felt much snappier.

I do however remember being disappointed that the fastest socket 7 chips were not [even] faster and could not play Quake 3 on max settings. I was running it in a GA5AX rev 5.2 with F4 bios. My old records seem to suggest I got 15-20 fps for Quake 3 running UC1 and UC2 which were demo's I used back then. 20 fps on 640 and low detail. After that I just used the system with matrox + v2sli and used the v5 with athlons or p3s.

Would be interesting to see some comparative benchmarks you get for K6/2, K6/3+ not overclocked and K6/3+ overclocked.

There are some utilities at K6Plus.com on the Download page that will tell you what features of the K6 are enabled. Might be useful info.

I've been doing some tests with other cards, seems like this motherboard just doesn't like 3dfx for whatever reason, be it Voodoo 3 or Voodoo 2 SLI.
I'd have to disagree with you on this one swaaye, some of these scores are downright pathetic. I've been checking reviews from Anandtech and Tom's Hardware from 1999 and 2000 and I'm quite off. Especially on Shogo, Quake 2 Crusher and Turok 2.
My GeForce 2 MX seems to run fine, except I'll have to find a fan for it, last one I had died and this card overheats within 20 minutes, causing all sorts of corruption.
I'll be back with you guys once I've tried a couple of things.

Yeah nevermind me. I was overestimating the slowness of K6.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpus-amd- … tel,101-14.html

F2bnp wrote:

I've been doing some tests with other cards, seems like this motherboard just doesn't like 3dfx for whatever reason, be it Voodoo 3 or Voodoo 2 SLI.
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strange, I was using it with both a v2 SLI setup and a v3/3000-agp... are you installing the ALi drivers?
Though I must admit, I never benchmarked it but it was stable.

Yep... I tried with and without them. I'll see what happens after I've installed a fan on my GF2MX. I noticed a lot of artifacts in NFS II SE with the Voodoo 2 cards and eventually crash to desktop. I let the machine cool off a bit and tried again and it didn't happen until 3-4 minutes in.
I can confirm though that the Voodoo 2 cards again give me about 21fps in Crusher.dm2 in Quake 2. I was just having a chat with my friend Markk and we laughed it off because this is just something I do on my spare time. But imagine if it was actually 2000 and I was building a machine with these specs. It would have driven me insane, that's for sure xD

Did you got some ctcm7 results from my K6-2+ system?

No, not really. I did fix the cooling system on my GF2 MX and did get to try a few games. Unfortunately, a lot of games have artifacts with the Voodoo 2, I'll see if it is a driver issue (hopefully).

didn't these CPUs suffer in 3d gaming?

yes, obviously. A Pentium II 400 should be faster than a K6-III+ 600, however as you can see in some benchmarks I´m far behind from what is acceptable. And you have to keep in mind that I´m running with the best Mini GLs and drivers, better than what was available at the time of those benchmarks. It really frustrates the hell out of me 😜

Just for references, what are your
Unreal Timedemo scores for V2 SLI at 1024x768 and what are your 3DMark2000 scores (800x600x16) ?

I´ll try to get those today hopefully!

Whelp, Voodoo 2 SLI is a no go, completely unstable, with artifacts and crashes. My V3 3000 PCI seems to be stable though. So here are some results with K6-3+ 400 @ 550MHz.

3DMark 99MAX - 800x600 (defaults)
2394 3DMarks
8108 CPU 3DMarks

3DMark 2000 (800x600)
1350 3DMarks
62 CPU 3DMarks

Unreal Timedemo (1024x768)
About 38fps

Quake 2 (1024x768, 3DNow! OpenGL Driver)
Demo1.dm2 - 44fps
Crusher.dm2 - 22fps (this still puzzles me...)
Massive1.dm2 - 34fps

The V3 3000 should be scoring almost equally to the V2 SLI under this CPU, so what are your results elianda? Do these seem ok to most of you?

Well....

ftp://78.46.141.148/pictures/k62p_system/3dma … sli_800x600.png

ftp://78.46.141.148/pictures/k62p_system/3dma … 0x600_v2sli.png

ftp://78.46.141.148/pictures/k62p_system/unreal_v2sli.png

Yep, I'm quite a bit behind. Will rerun 3dmark2000 and 99 and post pics soon.

Sorry for the double post, just had to make sure you'd see this:

So I am... GPU limited? Anyway, this is where I draw a line, there's something wrong with this motherboard, but seeing as it is stable with the V3 now, I'm not going to tweak it anymore.
Overclocking the V3 to 3500 speeds did little to help. Running the CPU at 550MHz using 110MHz FSB resulted in slightly higher scores too. Oh well.

I can't see how the Voodoo3 could be the bottleneck with a K6 CPU and at those resolutions. Voodoo3 tends to scale well up to around a P3 1GHz in 1999 games unless you try to push high resolutions and eat up too much fillrate.

I almost want to set up my ASUS P5A with a K6+ and a Voodoo3 2000 PCI and test it but oh the effort. Plus I know even at 616 MHz it will run Quake3 and UT99 like ass and that's disillusioning. 😁

he's running a PCI card, not AGP I think? that could very well be the issue

swaaye wrote:

I can't see how the Voodoo3 could be the bottleneck with a K6 CPU and at those resolutions. Voodoo3 tends to scale well up to around a P3 1GHz in 1999 games unless you try to push high resolutions and eat up too much fillrate.

I almost want to set up my ASUS P5A with a K6+ and a Voodoo3 2000 PCI and test it but oh the effort. Plus I know even at 616 MHz it will run Quake3 and UT99 like ass and that's disillusioning. 😁

Yes, obviously, that's why I put the dots ... It doesn't make any sense. There is something wrong with this board, as not only is my V3 running utterly slow, regardless of CPU, but also my Voodoo 2 cards are unstable, producing artifacts and causing crashes. I tried individual cards and slots and it didn't really change anything.
Anyway, Quake 3 actually runs pretty well on my system, I suppose if you tried it on your machine it would be running even better. At 1024x768 and High Quality (With Colour Depth and Texture Quality set to Default) it produced 40fps on Demo001. Not half bad at all!

@TheMan, the PCI and AGP versions of the Voodoo 3 have barely any performance difference. 3Dfx made no real use of the AGP bus other than its speed (AGP 66MHz VS PCI 33MHz), although I think the Voodoo4/5 made just a little more use of it.