anyone?

Did you make any changes to the default DOSBox configuration?

How did you mount the virtual drives in DOSBox?

Which version of DOSBox?

How did you install the game?

How do you start the game?

i havnt touched the original config except by making it automatically mount C and D drives as advised in the 60second guide (but the problem happened before i did this)

i mounted them exactly as it says in the 60 second guide

Z:>mount C "C:\DOSBox stuff\cm2"
Z:>mount D "D:\" -t cdrom -ioctl

i use the lates version of dosbox .65

i installed the game by doing... (after mounting the drives as above) this installed the game as normal from when i played it on a previos version of windows

Z:>D:
D:>install

to start the game there are two directerios 'go' and 'cm2' go starts it by doing an intro where cm2 runs it without the intro,

when using 'go' it shows the into (albeit jerkily) when that has run its course it just closes down, when i enter 'cm2' it makes a few spaces on the dosbox as if loading then closes down

the game is called championship manager 2 (a football/soccer simulator)

thanks

Thanks. go and cm2 - are they EXE files or BAT files?

cm2 is .exe

and go is a mos dos batch file

also perhaps worth mentioning 'setsouund' is a .exe file where you configure the sound and this works fine too

AHA!!!! i trieed again and noticed the dosbox window closed a split second before the status window (after trying to run cm2.exe) and i managed to save a screen shot of what the status window said (after many attempts)

and it says

CONFIG:Loading settings from config file dosbox.conf
MIDI: opened device:win32
Exit to error: CPU:GR5:Illegal Call 7

if this helps?

well that indicates that zero code has been executed.
It might be possbile to determine the cause for that by debugging, but I don't know if you are experienced with that.

i am quite computer lieterate at at a intermiediate level but am, very unfamiliar with this problem, if there is anyway to be walked through it our given a guide i would be very grateful

Well, I found a downloadable version of a pre-installed Championship Manager 2 (version 1.56).

It comes with DOS4/GW 1.97.

Works fine for me with DOSBox 0.65 using cpu=dynamic, cycles=24000.

There is no sound because the person that packed the game, in his own words "I've removed all the unnecessary files (crowd noise, superfluous exes, etc.) to make the total size of the zip file as small as possible".

ok my version should be the same at least as i have it on disc though if you could tell me where you got it i would be grateful (i think this is ok as it is abandonware) dos4gw came with my version but i do not know its function as i have always run the game on windows (until XP came along)

did you do anything special to get this to run or different to what i did above

thanks for all your help if i am taking this slowly but i am really greateful!!

No, nothing special. It ran really slow on core=normal, but with core=dynamic it became acceptable.

Here is my Run.cmd file to start DOSBox for this game:

1@	echo off
2
3	if not exist C-drive	mkdir C-drive
4	if not exist capture	mkdir capture
5
6	if not exist C-drive\CM2 (
7	    echo Copying/installing files to DOSBox C-drive\CM2...
8	    mkdir C-drive\CM2
9	    copy Unzipped\*.* C-drive\CM2
10	    pause
11	)
12
13	start "DOSBox" "%ProgramFiles%\DOSBox-0.65\dosbox.exe" %*

and here is my dosbox.conf:

1# DOSBox 0.65 configuration for "Championship Manager 2".
2#
3# By MiniMax
4
5[cpu]
6core=dynamic
7cycles=24000
8cycleup=1000
9cycledown=1000
10
11[render]
12frameskip=1
13
14[autoexec]
15@ echo off
16
17mount C "C-drive"
18mount D "Unzipped" -t cdrom
19
20D:
21
22if exist C:\CM2\CM2.Exe C:
23if exist C:\CM2\CM2.Exe cd \CM2
24
25echo on

Put Run.cmd and dosbox.conf in an empty directory. Create a directory name Unzipped and put all the unpacked CM2 files into the directory, and start it all by running Run.cmd.

thanks so much!

i relaly did try all i knew/could before replying as you have been a big help

what i did was i copied my full installation from my CD (all sounds and pics) into C:\unzipped so i could directly use your instructions

i have changed my dosbox.conf to your suggestion so it does this at startup,

however this run.cmd has got me stumped!
what is it, do i make one, i kinda get that it is something by clicking it follows the commands to make it easier to get the balls in motion rather than tedious typing in dosbox but i havnt got a clue how to obtain one least of all get it working for me

i would be so greateful if you could just guide me through making one - again i did check through the readme, wiki and guides but couldn't see anything about it

The CMD-file can be created and edited with Notepad.

All it does is to automate the process of creating a directory to emulate the C-drive, a directory for capturing screenshoots, copy the original files from Unzipped into the CM2 directory, and finally start DOSBox.

It is almost the same as the process I have describe here for a game called Tony and Friends:

Runtime error 002 at 0004:2C46.

When I run CM2 (by clicking on Run.cmd) this is how the directories and files are laid out:

1I:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\MINIMAX\DOKUMENTER\DOSBOX\OLDGAMES\CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER 2
2|   dosbox.conf
3|   Run.cmd
4|
5+---C-drive
6|   \---CM2
7|           AILDRVR.LST
8|           CHANGES.TXT
9|           cm2.exe
10|           CM2.SP
11|           CM2ED.DAT
12|           CM2ED.EXE
13|           CM2ED.TXT
14|           CONFIG.DAT
15|           DOS4GW.EXE
16|           ..... Many more files .....
17|
18\---Unzipped
19        AILDRVR.LST
20        CHANGES.TXT
21        cm2.exe
22        CM2.SP
23        CM2ED.DAT
24        CM2ED.EXE
25        CM2ED.TXT
26        CONFIG.DAT
27        DOS4GW.EXE
28        ..... Many more files .....

that thread created problems aswsell as solving

do all the instructions you gave him go for me too i mean do i have to go through the cmd.exe etc. ((when i got to cmd.exe and followed it said run was not a exectuble program or batch file not valid application

i have managed to create C:\cm2 which contains the game files and C:\unzipped which also contains the game files and the notepad files with the content you advised.

i dont see how i can 'click' or run run.cmd as it is a notepad file and just opens up showing what i have typed inside it!

i am thoroughly confused

do you think i should perserve with my original game installation from the disc or leave it and try the downloaded version, looking at the two lists of files i believe i should use the disk as they seem identicle except the disc has more content that i would want (sounds pics etc.)

should i make my directories in documents and settings or just C: or does it not matter!

as the guy said about tony i need a lifebelt 🤣

sorry 🙁 i really really appriciate this)

rabidscouser wrote:

that thread created problems aswsell as solving

do all the instructions you gave him go for me too i mean do i have to go through the "cmd.exe" etc. ((when i got to "cmd.exe" and followed it said run was not a exectuble program or batch file not valid application

I WANT TO KILL BILL GATES for his desire to hide file extensions.

I think I know what has happended here.... When you tried to create Run.cmd using Notepad, Notepad decided to automatically add an .txt extension to the file so the real filename became Run.cmd.txt. And in all their wisdom, the Windows designer thought it would be a neat thing to hide known file-extensions by default, so when you look through the files in Windows Explorer, all you see is Run.cmd - without the .txt.

For your own sanity and mental health, turn that option off. Go to My Computer, doubble-click on your C: drive, go to menu Tools.. => Folder Options... In the Folder Options... window, choose the tab called "Show". Look at the "Advanced options", and un-check the option saying "Hide file extensions for known file types".

Next - find that Run.cmd.txt file and rename it to just Run.cmd.

And while your are at it - find dosbox.conf and make sure that Notepad has not decided to add an .txt extension to that too. If so, rename it to just dosbox.conf.

rabidscouser wrote:

i have managed to create C:\cm2 which contains the game files and C:\unzipped which also contains the game files and the notepad files with the content you advised.

Good - but wish you would move the CM2 and Unzipped directory somewhere else.

E.g. create the folder "My Documents\ OldGames\ Championship Manager 2" and move dosbox.conf, Run.cmd and Unzipped into the "Championship Manager 2" folder.

Then inside the "Championship Manager 2" folder, create a folder called C-drive, and move your CM2 folder to the "Championship Manager 2\C-drive" folder.

Doing so, will make it clearer to you afterwards which files belong to the world outside DOSBox, and which files belong to the game running inside DOSBox.

rabidscouser wrote:

i dont see how i can 'click' or run run.cmd as it is a notepad file and just opens up showing what i have typed inside it!

i am thoroughly confused

Blame Bill Gates! He is playing tricks with what you see and what you don't see..

Your (wrongly) named Run.cmd.txt files opens up in Notepad because Windows decides that .txt files should be opened with Notepad.

When you rename it to just Run.cmd, Windows will see the .cmd extension and will know that it contains instructions it needs to execute.

rabidscouser wrote:

do you think i should perserve with my original game installation from the disc or leave it and try the downloaded version, looking at the two lists of files i believe i should use the disk as they seem identicle except the disc has more content that i would want (sounds pics etc.)

.

Both! First try with the download-version. Using that you can follow my instructions directly, and we don't have to worry if the problems are due to differences between the CD-version and the download version.

When you start feeling comfortable with how Run.cmd, dosbox.conf and DOSBox works, how virtual drives are mounted, etc, then you and I can repeat the whole excersize with the CD-version.

rabidscouser wrote:

should i make my directories in documents and settings or just C: or does it not matter!

Making them directly in C:\ is not a good idea. When you mount C:\ in DOSBox, DOSBox and the programs your run inside DOSBox will suddenly have access to every file on your PC. Moving it all into a sub-directory of your Documents folder, restricts DOSBox and the games to just that folder.

rabidscouser wrote:

as the guy said about tony i need a lifebelt 🤣

I am partly to blame here. I could have given you are lifebelt, but I prefer to teach you how to swim. It takes longer, but I believe that the end result will be better for you.

ok that has helped alot

now i am gonna see if we can bridge the gap from the beggining to end
i am using the downloaded game
i now have

C:\my documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2\C-drive which contains my game files WITH the now adapted (and seemingly fine) run.cmd and dosbox.conf

i have C:\my documents\Old Games\unzipped which is identical to the above directory except it does not hold the run and dosbox files

(this doesn't sound right but i am sure you will point me the right way)

run says:

@ echo off

if not exist C-drive mkdir C-drive
if not exist capture mkdir capture

start "DOSBox" "%ProgramFiles%\DOSBox-0.65\dosbox.exe" %*

dosbox.conf says

# DOSBox 0.65 configuration for "Championship Manager 2".
#
# By MiniMax

[cpu]
core=dynamic
cycles=24000
cycleup=1000
cycledown=1000

[render]
frameskip=1

[autoexec]
@ echo off

mount C "C-drive"
mount D "Unzipped" -t cdrom

D:

if exist C:\CM2\CM2.Exe C:
if exist C:\CM2\CM2.Exe cd \CM2

again i am not sure if i should be using the main dosbox.cong file from the main games folder and adding that to the end or just using that.

i have not touched any other main files, i have the cd in the drive though am assuming i dont need it as you managed it without.

what is the next step or what do i need to alter

sorry about the back to basics but it went 0-60 and now back down to 20 again so am just trying to level it out,

i await your reply, thanks

rabidscouser wrote:

i now have

C:\my documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2\C-drive which contains my game files WITH the now adapted (and seemingly fine) run.cmd and dosbox.conf

Move Run.cmd and dosbox.conf one level up to "C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2".

Click the Windows Start menu (lower left on your screen), then "Run...", and enter "cmd.exe" as the program to run.

At the "cmd.exe" prompt type cd "C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2" and dir:

1C:\> cd "C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2"
2C:> dir

The result should be like this:

1 Disk in drive C is xxxxxx
2 Disk serial number is xxxxxxx
3
4 Contents of C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2
5
613-06-2006  21:08    <DIR>          Unzipped
713-06-2006  22:17               359 dosbox.conf
813-06-2006  22:21               356 Run.cmd
913-06-2006  22:21    <DIR>          C-drive

rabidscouser wrote:

again i am not sure if i should be using the main dosbox.cong file from the main games folder and adding that to the end or just using that.

I hope you have 2 dosbox.conf files:

1. C:\Programs\DOSBox-0.65\dosbox.conf
2. C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2\dosbox.conf

The big one in DOSBox-0.65 contains the global settings. Anything in the little one in Championship Manager 2 contains the game-specific settings, and will override the global settings. So the

1core=dynamic
2cycles=24000 

will override the default settings of

1core=normal
2cycles=3000

rabidscouser wrote:

what is the next step or what do i need to alter

At the "cmd.exe" prompt, type run:

1C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2> dir
2 Disk in drive C is xxxxxx
3 Disk serial number is xxxxxxx
4
5 Contents of C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2
6
713-06-2006  21:08    <DIR>          Unzipped
813-06-2006  22:17               359 dosbox.conf
913-06-2006  22:21               356 Run.cmd
1013-06-2006  22:21    <DIR>          C-drive
11
12                2 file(s)
13                2 folder(s)
14
15C:\My Documents\Old Games\Championship Manager 2> run

okay i think i am getting it

our dir's match (just to confirm unzipped is within the championship manager 2 folder along with the C-drive and run and dosbox files)

got through the cmd.exe all fine

so i type run and it all loads up dosbox comes up then says:

"Drive C is mounted at local directory C-drive\
MSCDEX: Mounted subdirectory: limited support.
Drive D is mounted as CDRom.
D:\"

and stops there

same happened with cd in and cd not in

thanks

Usually you would now have to start the installation program from the CD, but with the downloaded version, the installation process is a litte different:

1. Make a CM2 directory on drive C.
2. Copy the files from D (Unzipped) into C:\CM2.

1Drive C is mounted at local directory C-drive\
2MSCDEX: Mounted subdirectory: limited support.
3Drive D is mounted as CDRom.
4D:\>C:
5
6C:\>mkdir CM2
7
8C:\>copy D:*.* CM2
9 ........
10 SVGED.EXE
11 SVGED.TXT
12 TEAMS.LIS
13 TMDATA.DB1
14   45 Files(s) copied.

Start the game:

1C:\>cd CM2
2
3C:\CM2>cm2

The next time around, the autoexec section of dosbox.conf will put you into the C-drive and the CM2 directory automagically:

1if exist C:\CM2\CM2.Exe C:
2if exist C:\CM2\CM2.Exe cd \CM2

when i did this it said 0 files copied when i tried to copy

would it be easier if at this stage i installed the game from CD then loaded it up as i am more familar with this from previous usage?

or perserve with tihs, i did type exactly as instructed any idea what i may have missed or may not have done